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Podcasts with LeiLani Cauthen

Author, Researcher, Systems Strategist

These conversations go beyond trends to examine what is structurally changing in education—and what must follow.

Topics include the forces reshaping learning at every level: legislation and policy constraints, AI agent and temporal personalization, the collapse of industrial-era schooling models, emerging learning architectures, and the evolving intersection of technology, human development, and economic reality. Discussions span system design, identity and security, organizational change, learner motivation, hybrid logistics, and the growing shift toward networked, distributed learning environments.

A Distinct Point of View

People often sense that education isn’t working—but cannot articulate what replaces it.

The issue isn’t a lack of options. It’s a lack of structural understanding.

Technology is not simply a set of tools layered onto classrooms. It is a force that redefines how time, access, instruction, and organization work together. When those elements shift, the entire model of schooling must shift with them.

Today’s tension in education reflects a deeper misfit:

  • between how humans actually learn and how time is structured
  • between institutional models and economic realities
  • between policy frameworks and technological possibility

Choice, in this context, is not meaningful unless the underlying structure is understood.

These podcasts explore that structural shift—what is breaking, what is emerging, and what is still missing. They connect leadership decisions, technology architectures, and learning design into a coherent view of where education is going.

Most importantly, they aim to make the future visible—not as speculation, but as something already taking shape.

About the Host

LeiLani Cauthen brings a rare combination of perspectives—researcher, author, media leader, and technology architect. As the founder of Learning Counsel and Knowstory, her work spans industry analysis, system design, and the development of next-generation learning models, including Time AI and AI-driven course creation.

Through conversations with education and technology leaders, she surfaces not just what is happening—but how the pieces fit, and what they point to next.

June 3, 2024
Dawning of Schools as Hubs of Tutoring Sourcing

What does it mean to school leaders and teachers to intersect students with what they need to achieve when the existing schedule already overwhelms teachers? When there is no time to catch students up or challenge ones far ahead, something must be done or the likelihood of losing those students to alternatives or dropping out is high. The dawning of change in the structure of schooling includes novel approaches to sourcing tutoring to overcome learning loss, absenteeism, behavioral issues, and expectations of full personalization for every learner. It used to be that easy scheduling was a difficult proposition – but no longer so with AI. In this discussion with Anthony Salcito, Chief Institution Business Officer with Varsity Tutors, Leilani learns about Varsity Tutors and their mission to help schools gain, without compromise, on their objectives by becoming a sourcing hub leveraging some 40,000+ tutors.


May 6, 2024
Building Problem Solvers with Exploratory Learning

Listen in as LeiLani discusses with guest Ki Karou of MIND Education what it means to use game-based learning, visual learning, in helping learners build mental schema and problem-solve. This is a complex topic that Karou is an expert in, being the Lead Mathematician and Product Director at MIND Education. Karou’s application of game theory and rich background in cognitive sciences makes for an excellent conversation on what edtech is doing today to drive true personalization with exploratory learning.


May 1, 2024
The Big Conundrum: Logistics and Tailored Learning

A conundrum of schools wanting to personalize and customize learning, to tailor it around individuals is juxtaposed against a lack of logistics and strategy in this discussion with Matt Yeager, Assistant Superintendent of Technology from Garland Independent School District in the Dallas, Texas area with 52,000 students. Yeager introduces his theory of leadership and answers questions about what he means by tailored learning, missing logistics and his work in connectivity for schools and students. He provides additional valuable insights in strategic planning and how schools need to understand how technology will help them change structure and gain long-held desires to provide what learners and parents really want. (Audio only and video versions)


April 29, 2024
The Education Intelligent Network Matrix is Already Here

LeiLani discusses how the future is already here – education is irretrievably already in an intelligent network matrix but still has much to do to fit comfortably in it. Mike Witzman, Senior Director of Solutions Engineering of Cisco’s U.S. Public Sector team talks about the trend of “form following function”: with LeiLani and the three levels of schooling being part of a new matrix of learning. Witzman includes many comments about the technical side of advancing schools up from devices in the hands of all students, though campus and classroom readiness, and up to the network mesh matrix that intelligently provides access and interchange of teaching, learning and resources across the internet.


April 16, 2024
AI Futures in Education

What could happen when all the artificial intelligences converge? That’s just part of this conversation between Serena Saks-Mandel, the Global CTO for Education at Microsoft, and LeiLani Cauthen. Starting of with introducing her not-associated-with-Microsoft new book, “Empowered: Frame your Narrative, Own your Power” available now on Amazon. Like in all things from Serena, the stories have high energy and resonance for anyone – a powerful light and lesson is shown in this book to take away from its many mini-stories. In this podcast, after LeiLani brings up Serena’s new book, the conversation naturally turns to the need for educators to see the future is first and foremost going to be a balancing act of becoming more resolutely human, a time of perfecting our human-ness. Four other future leaning predictions are made in a jumble you need to listen closely to discern – plus seven types of AI including machine learning, generative, recommendations engine, voice, vision, embedded (IOT) and spatial-temporal. Hear what Serena and LeiLani have to say happens when it all comes together. (Audio only and video versions)


April 2, 2024
Changing the Culture of Math Learning

Maybe math learning could be better if it was in sync with the current generation’s culture – that of Generation Alpha. LeiLani interviews Brandon Smith, the Lead Mathematician and Product Director at MIND Education about how learning-by-doing is a key part of a new cultural address for math learning. While Brandon gives specific examples of what can be done, the discussion also turns to equity in learning and development. Brandon also gives key specific points of what the math learning itself needs to involve – an education in math education!


Dec. 18, 2023
Building the Culture of Security in Schools

Culture of security? Listen in on this unique conversation with Helen Patton, the Cyber Security Strategic Advisor from Cisco. The discussion of security in schools is not just about digital citizenship, passwords, and the like, but about leadership. Cyber security in schools is not just a “job for the IT people,” but a sense of morality in individual behavior of all parties because schools are intermingled in many ways with the digital world and not just brick and mortar buildings at every level of their operations. Lots of information about the types of threats and interesting stories relating to the human side of security.


Nov. 2, 2023
Gen Alpha and Being the School of Choice

Listen in on this rousing conversation about the Alpha Generation which is defined as people born 2010-2024 – the current crop of students in K12 schools. Research has shown they prefer the screen to humans, and although older generations find that terrible, it’s a fact that still has a profound impact on how they can be effectively taught and what they expect. Ramifications for technology and teaching are discussed between the host, LeiLani Cauthen and Mary Schlegelmilch, Education Advocate from Cisco who has been an early childhood educator, a middle school science teacher, a district curriculum facilitator, an elementary school principal, and has served as the eLearning Supervisor in charge of online, blended, and distance education for Omaha Public Schools. Multiple aspects of the Alpha Gen are enumerated with comments and observations made by both speakers.


Oct. 3, 2023
What is the Science of Learning Math?

Listen in to our interview with Nigel Nisbet, a rock musician, AP Physics and AP Computer Science teacher who did a tour of duty in an all-girls school, plus a specialist who devotes his time to reaching into the structure and beauty of mathematics and discussing the “science of learning math” from many angles. Nisbet who is currently the VP of Content Creation at MIND Education mentions how teaching modalities have changed and how learning has had to delve into facts of how people learn and the neuroscience of it all. He mentions a lot of the important mechanisms within the subject of math that are being addressed with advanced technology and what it means. LeiLani points out these important things that the software can do that human teachers find difficult such as true personalization for each point of potential student struggle, followed by Nisbet discussing how the “science of” is developed to manage this positively while still involving the teacher for certain particular human interactions to leverage expertise and emotional connection which causes better learning.


Sept. 5, 2023
Actionable Learning through Engagement

What is actionable? What is real engagement? LeiLani discusses these things, and a novel definition of equity with Dan Tracy from MIND Education. Dan’s triple threat as a teacher, coder and trainer, makes this podcast discussion an interesting reveal on how to approach instruction – especially the subject of math.